advice on yellow please

[lindah11]

hi all
i have taken some photos of the only rose i have in my garden  its one my son brought me for mothers day and such a beautifull rose
 its a very bright yellow  canary yellow colour if that makes sence
sorry caunt get photo on to show you
 i can see some of the warm  colour but its very hard to see the cool colours  even in different light its a vivid colour
 im wondering if i should print out a grey scale what do you think
hugs linda xxx

[marylka]

Hi Linda,
That would be good  to print out a grey scale ,it will show your values of the rose.
Marylka

[lindah11]

thank you will give it ago
its such a shame  i caunt see the values  clearly  i think im going to have to do it very pale as well
with the colour being so vivid
hugs linda x

[poppycat]

Hello Linda, Just another thought, that you may like to try, sometimes if you actually put some of the background in, it helps to see the colours more clearly, I am working on a yellow rose, light yellow and dark, with other shades, orange through to dark red, and I found that when I decided to put some of the leaves in, while waiting for paint to dry, that I actually needed to darken the yellow quite a bit, although at first it seemed to be the right shade, Susan does mention this in her book, that it sometimes happens, that you need to go darker on the flower, when the background goes in.  Hope this helps, regards, Patricia.

[Renee]

Hi Linda, Do you have any photo software? It can help to  edit the photo by increasing saturation.
It will help you see the color temperatures better.

[Susan Harrison-Tustain]

Hi Linda
Colour temperature is relative. If the local color of the rose is warm- then you describe the form of the rose using all warm colors - but one side is warmer than the other. So in effect you have one warm side and one cooler side. Do you know what I mean?

Remember if the rose is affected by natural light - the highlights are always coolest. The shadows are warmest. I try not to get any yellow in my 'white' highlights initially. Once the rose hues are all layed in - then I analyse, adjust and fine tune the hues. It is often at this stage that I may add a tiny tiny amount of yellow if required in some highlights. Each painting is different and these are generalizations. Take a good look at what you see in front of you and decide for yourself what hues you will use. Try painting a couple of petals on a scrap piece of paper first - until you have discovered the mixes of hue you want to use.

Hope that helps
Susan

[lindah11]

thank you for all the information and great tips 
im squinting like mad here to see warm colours and cool colours.............. must admit its a challenge but the rose is so special to me....
 made a real mess of first attempt it got ripped up and thrown in bin lol ....
fingers crossed i have learnt  by  those mistakes got two roses painted in and couple of buds i have added alittle quinactrodne gold and touch of red to push some of the petals back remembered that from susan's dvd............... so roses are looking slightly warmer than my pictures.
but hey! artist licence is order of the day here lol 
hugs everyone
linda xxx

[Renee]

thank you for all the information and great tips 
im squinting like mad here to see warm colours and cool colours.............. must admit its a challenge but the rose is so special to me....
 made a real mess of first attempt it got ripped up and thrown in bin lol ....
fingers crossed i have learnt  by  those mistakes got two roses painted in and couple of buds i have added alittle quinactrodne gold and touch of red to push some of the petals back remembered that from susan's dvd............... so roses are looking slightly warmer than my pictures.
but hey! artist licence is order of the day here lol 
hugs everyone
linda xxx

Which one of Susan's DVD's did she use Quin Gold and a touch of red to push pedals back? Just wondered.
When using yellows, which are all warm colors over all, you should see the yellows that have more green (or blue)within and the yellows that have more orange (red) within.
If you can't then you can still imagine where the cool parts will be and the warmer, as Susan said. Just knowing where the cool area's and warmer areas will be is half the battle. I had to guess at this myself when I painted a red rose from a peach reference photo. Just figuring out where those areas are helped and it turned out fine.

[lindah11]

hi
 susan used the smallest ammount of red to push back a petal  i think it was on the sally holmes rose she also added another colour to pallet
i used the gold from another dvd i have here this painting is a real mish mass od dvd lol
hugs linda xxx

[Renee]

hi
 susan used the smallest ammount of red to push back a petal  i think it was on the sally holmes rose she also added another colour to pallet
i used the gold from another dvd i have here this painting is a real mish mass od dvd lol
hugs linda xxx

Thanks Linda. I was curious because it sounded like a great way to do it.