DAILY CHAT ROOM

[Renee]

Hi Renee,
What I meant was Arleta only uses the walnut oil for cleaning and the medium for mixing it dries in 24 hours in a warm room.I put mine in the car it's outside so it makes a nice drying place .
Marylka

I do like my paintings to dry faster.   I knew you were referring to Arleta's method. But you know me, I take my own trails. I will learn what I can from someones book and what not but bottom line,I am a rebel and take my own trails. I knew at age 16 that one can use even the linseed oil as a medium paint mix. I read the book on it back then, Oil Painting Techniques of The Great Masters." Yes, it takes longer to dry but it works. To long! LOL! What if a fly lands on it in that time!  Just my luck!
I was just unaware that one does not have to use turpentine. (Thank goodness for that!)
All in all, I may only use walnut oil and paint. However I do have the non toxic other medium if I want. It is a small bottle though. I will need to get some Murphy's Oil Soap also. I think I left mine in WA. Not handy right now.
I can't wait for the book to get here. Reading fresh materials is what I need right now. I wish I could afford Arleta's DVD right now but I should wait another month .
Also, I'm looking forward to getting the book Bruce recommended by Harley Brown.

[paula]

Hi Girls - quite a few posts today!! I was actually going to say that painting oll in glazes and waiting for them to dry would be very time consuming - then I read from Marylke that it only takes 24 hours to dry but mind you if you were itching to put on the  next glaze it could be frustrating! I paint all my oils (mainly flowers) with a wet in wet technique - so you can paint quite a while before you get to that over blended stage but sometimes even then it is frustrating to have to stop to wait for it to dry.  I am definitely going to buy Arleta's book now as now I am very curious.  

[Renee]

Hi Renee,
Yes they are maestro series 2. She mainly uses arylic and i am getting her to learn Arleta's oil technique. I told her that if she starts now she will be really advanced in about 10 years and if she has children it will be a great hobby for her. She will most likely be moving to New Zealand permanently with her boyfriend in the not too distant future. She is going to do Education abroad next year in NZ and is likely to finish her degree back in Oz at the end of next year and then move to NZ. I will miss her a lot . They look like oil brushes. the box is fairly large and she can store all her brushes in it in the future. It is very long so length of the brush will not matter. I know what you mean about time but you will get back into a routine. Sometimes after a big effort like an exhibition we need to recharge before moving on. The new book will be a great inspiration too. I have it on my bed and look at it a little each night. I read one of your comments on the challenge site about not actually reading some of your books and just looking at the pictures. I tend to do this sometimes. I am trying to actually read the books now. There is a lot to learn isn't there
regards
Margaret

Hi Margaret, Actually Da Vinci Maestro 2, is  Series 7055. It is just called Da Vinci Maestro 2. I looked them up. I bet she will enjoy them. They are NICE!

OMG! Yes, you will miss her! That is a long way from home. But with her training and the job she will end up with, she should be able to afford to see you often. Our kids do have to strike out on their own.
Sometimes I think how it was for those people whose children moved from the motherland to the new Colonies. It had to have been really hard on the parents seeing them go. When my sons went into the Military, I went a year without seeing them. Once a year for about 4 years. My youngest was in Iraq for 6 months during a horrible time. Luckily he came back unharmed.
You are right about the exhibition. I did need recharging. Still charging even now.LOL!

I am older and wiser and do read my art book now. That Pastel book I have is a really thick one and most of it is just explaining the pictures. I did read enough of it years ago to realize that Blue in an important color to use in painting skin. Especially with Pastels.

[Renee]

Hi Girls - quite a few posts today!! I was actually going to say that painting oll in glazes and waiting for them to dry would be very time consuming - then I read from Marylke that it only takes 24 hours to dry but mind you if you were itching to put on the  next glaze it could be frustrating! I paint all my oils (mainly flowers) with a wet in wet technique - so you can paint quite a while before you get to that over blended stage but sometimes even then it is frustrating to have to stop to wait for it to dry.  I am definitely going to buy Arleta's book now as now I am very curious.  

When I painted oils from that tiny little $15.95 set back in my teens, and I bought those oil painting books, I painted wet in wet because I had NO patience for them to dry. I did  not draw the pictures 1st either. I sketched with the paint brush. I sure made some messes on that cheap canvas-board in my room! I would like doing a wet in wet technique. Maybe that is why Bob Ross appeals to me! LOL! But not that orderless thinner he used. DANGEROUS if inhaled. And how would one know they have been inhaling it if they cannot smell it? No wonder he died too young of cancer.
When I got Acrylics in my 20's I liked that they dried fast. But did not like that the expensive paint dried on my palette and unusable. This is one big reason why I love using watercolor. Hardly any waste and easy clean up.

I know that all M Graham paints are very good, Oil paints included and the Concentrated Walnut/Alkyd medium is non toxic and helps the paint to dry very fast. Solvent Free and Certified Non-Toxic.

This is from their web site.

Concentrated Walnut/Alkyd Medium thins the color, accelerates drying and enhances adhesion between layers. Ideally suited for alla-prima and glaze applications, this medium increases surface sheen and flexibility while remaining non-yellowing.

Walnut Oil and Walnut/Alkyd Medium are designed to augment the special nature of our oil color, but are completely compatible with other artists' oil colors and mediums.

[mrdwyer9]

Hi Renee and MArylke,
I was amazed at how little medium Arleta uses. She says that she uses almost dry on dry . I have the medium and will use it but as i said i have to get the canvas or board up first. Getting the eggshell finish to the board is a bit hard.
I like acrylic too but hate how it dries so fast and the waste of paint. Again that is why i like watercolour as it is so economical. I am looking forward to it as i can afford to do oil if i use Arleta economical style. There is a shopping centre near me where a lady does large oil paintings on board and i always think that she must use a hugh amount of oil paint as it is so think and there is so much of it. The paintings look like that would have at least 5 full tubes of paint on them. I could not afford that.
regards
MArgaret

[Renee]

Hi Renee and MArylke,
I was amazed at how little medium Arleta uses. She says that she uses almost dry on dry . I have the medium and will use it but as i said i have to get the canvas or board up first. Getting the eggshell finish to the board is a bit hard.
I like acrylic too but hate how it dries so fast and the waste of paint. Again that is why i like watercolour as it is so economical. I am looking forward to it as i can afford to do oil if i use Arleta economical style. There is a shopping centre near me where a lady does large oil paintings on board and i always think that she must use a hugh amount of oil paint as it is so think and there is so much of it. The paintings look like that would have at least 5 full tubes of paint on them. I could not afford that.
regards
MArgaret

Me either! I have seen paintings like that. Yes, that technique would use allot of paint. And oil paint is expensive. If you have that textured surface like most canvas, you would need a lot of paint to cover that up. It does pay to paint on the smoother surface.
Arleta Pech is an amazing artist and I thank Marylka for turning me on to her and her website back when I 1st joined the forum. Thanks Marylka!

[mrdwyer9]

Hi Renee,
the lady owns a gift shop and has some very expensive LLadro and other ornamental pieces priced in the $1000's of dollars. The painting are hugh about a metre by half a metre on board. The painting are more impressionistic and not to my taste either but whoever does them obviously must be having a lot of fun as it looks really spontanious. Would love to have more money for my art but don't so have to be economical.
regards
Margaret

[Renee]

Same here. I would love to be able to buy all the paint I want and paint to my hearts content, but can't...not now. What I have I will not toss to the canvas or paper , come what may. (Sounds fun though). I do have plenty of paint but what I have has to last me a very long time.

[marylka]

Hi Girls - quite a few posts today!! I was actually going to say that painting oll in glazes and waiting for them to dry would be very time consuming - then I read from Marylke that it only takes 24 hours to dry but mind you if you were itching to put on the  next glaze it could be frustrating! I paint all my oils (mainly flowers) with a wet in wet technique - so you can paint quite a while before you get to that over blended stage but sometimes even then it is frustrating to have to stop to wait for it to dry.  I am definitely going to buy Arleta's book now as now I am very curious.  

Hi Paula,
Yor method is alla prima while glazing does take time to dry I work on several so that I can do a bit on each or go back to water color. The glazes are mixed with Liquin medium that is what is used as the (water )to thin down the paint very little is used.
I still haven't finished one I started a while ago I didn't have the Ultrmarine blue green shade I have it now so I will finish it glazing gives beautiful glowing colors leaving the white of the board to the white's although I always add color to that as well if only lightly I don't like that the gesso is showing through they do get a varnish on the whole painting when totaly dry.It is a lovely way to paint no mud made, it's my favourite with oils I also have my own version .
Marylka

[marylka]

Hi Renee, your welcome  Arleta is my the other favourite Artist
As you say I do that also I add my own version to painting .In the yellow rose and bowl in oils it looked too pretty so I used my knowledge of watecolor to add little glazes of oil adding the reflecting  colors that I saw to make it more natural looking and it worked in the same principal because of using the light to dark Using the glazing in the oils I don't get mud .
Started on a new one today at art class it's water and a boat I'm trying the technique I did get quite a bit done .

Margaret apart from the boards if you prapare them yourself it will be economical, the paint needed is so small in comparison the the other method a tube goes a long way as well as the medium and being able to freeze it is great it doesn't last indefinatly in the freezer though. I bought a gorgeous color that I'm wanting to use it was so expensive, I hope it's worth it. I'm going to paint a old silver tea pot and roses .
You will miss your daughter, but then you will need to go over for a visit .
Marylka

[Renee]

Hi Girls - quite a few posts today!! I was actually going to say that painting oll in glazes and waiting for them to dry would be very time consuming - then I read from Marylke that it only takes 24 hours to dry but mind you if you were itching to put on the  next glaze it could be frustrating! I paint all my oils (mainly flowers) with a wet in wet technique - so you can paint quite a while before you get to that over blended stage but sometimes even then it is frustrating to have to stop to wait for it to dry.  I am definitely going to buy Arleta's book now as now I am very curious.  

Hi Paula,
Yor method is alla prima while glazing does take time to dry I work on several so that I can do a bit on each or go back to water color. The glazes are mixed with Liquin medium that is what is used as the (water )to thin down the paint very little is used.
I still haven't finished one I started a while ago I didn't have the Ultrmarine blue green shade I have it now so I will finish it glazing gives beautiful glowing colors leaving the white of the board to the white's although I always add color to that as well if only lightly I don't like that the gesso is showing through they do get a varnish on the whole painting when totaly dry.It is a lovely way to paint no mud made, it's my favourite with oils I also have my own version .
Marylka

What Brand of Liquin?

[Renee]

Hi Renee, your welcome  Arleta is my the other favourite Artist
As you say I do that also I add my own version to painting .In the yellow rose and bowl in oils it looked too pretty so I used my knowledge of watecolor to add little glazes of oil adding the reflecting  colors that I saw to make it more natural looking and it worked in the same principal because of using the light to dark Using the glazing in the oils I don't get mud .
Started on a new one today at art class it's water and a boat I'm trying the technique I did get quite a bit done .

Margaret apart from the boards if you prapare them yourself it will be economical, the paint needed is so small in comparison the the other method a tube goes a long way as well as the medium and being able to freeze it is great it doesn't last indefinatly in the freezer though. I bought a gorgeous color that I'm wanting to use it was so expensive, I hope it's worth it. I'm going to paint a old silver tea pot and roses .
You will miss your daughter, but then you will need to go over for a visit .
Marylka

Yes, you do.    I think painting is like handwriting and should be, very original. I have seen your work get better and better! I have to keep up! LOL! I better get busy!

[marylka]

Hi Renee,
Thank you I'm glad you see  my work getting better it's not evident to me at times ,recently I have looked as some of my previous work critically and see that I have by comparing them.The forum has been a great way of recording our first works and look back and see at what stage we are now.

I use W&N liquin I can't get the other.I use such a small amount that even though it not chemical free there is not much smell to it, no more then cleaners we use daily when I finish that I will buy the other I find that with every book, DVD, there is always other products advised now I will use what i have first
Marylka  

[mrdwyer9]

Hi Marylke,
forgot to ask what is this new colour that you now have? Very curious and are you using it for something special.
regards
Margaret

[mrdwyer9]

Hi Marylke,
Do you use the W & N liquin instead of the walnut oil oil medium. Is this a different addition for oil. Sorry to sound so ignorant . I was unable to get one colour that Arleta had it was Alizarin Crimson Blue Lake and she told me to use W & N windsor red blue shade instead. Arleta can be very helpful and she has such a nice sense of humour.
regards
Margaret